Johnny Davis

[00:00:00] Dustin: All right, everybody. Welcome to the 272nd edition of the holy backward podcast. I am Dustin here in rip city,

[00:00:19] Dillon Sage: Sade Schilling here, live and direct in a very, very dark and cloudy day and PDX. And we are about to talk about somebody who has a potential to light up the scoreboard and Johnny Davis. How are you doing my man?

[00:00:36] How did you enjoy the Johnny Davis experience?

[00:00:41] Dustin: This is, I believe our fifth future Friday. And it’s always tough when you are scouting a prospect, because clearly we’re picking games where they perform at least above average. So you don’t really see. The, the [00:01:00] negativity or the weaknesses in certain players.

[00:01:03] So you kind of have to project to what those might be, but you also come away with a lot of recency bias. However, looking back when, when I watched these, these videos, I’m still super high on Jabari Smith. Like I go and I continue to watch him play. I still see the intrigue and chat home grin. I’m still not super sold on Paolo.

[00:01:23] Benchero. I’m intrigued by my Jaden Ivy as well. So I think we’ve been doing these for over a month now. That’s a really good sample size like that. That’s a good longevity where I’m still going back to these players and wanting to learn more because of what I’ve seen. Johnny Davis was, was really no different.

[00:01:45] And. He is, I think a throwback in some, some aspects. You’re looking at a player who is a guard at the university of Wisconsin, 6 596 [00:02:00] pounds. He is 19 years old. He will be 20. Um, at the time of the draft, he was what they call a late bloomer. Um, so to speak in, in the recruiting. Industry, you know, all, a lot of these players were looking at were FiveStars maybe Gatorade players of the year.

[00:02:18] Uh, he was a solid prospect, but I, I think you would be lying if you said he was going to be a top five or six draft pick when he was coming out of high school. I mean, he was a four-star player by rivals the hundred and 34th best player nationally. And he chose. Wisconsin over, you know, some, some mid tier schools, like he didn’t have a crazy offer list.

[00:02:42] Like he chose them over Iowa, Minnesota green bay, Milwaukee, DePaul. So he really only had that upper Midwest interested in, in his services to come play basketball and he’s really proved them all wrong. Um, he’s got a really good connection. [00:03:00] Uh, with his family mother, Sarah father mark played 31 games with the Milwaukee bucks in 1989.

[00:03:06] He was selected in the fourth round of the 85 drafts by the Cavaliers. Uh, it’s he’s got a unique, uh, family situation. His twin brother Jordan is currently a teammate on the Wisconsin badgers and he also has two younger. Twin siblings, a brother Maxwell, and a sister Samantha. So that’s an interesting dynamic, two sets of twins, the set of twins actually playing together.

[00:03:29] Um, he’s already racking up the accolades. He’s a, he’s a mid season. All-American he was the, the Maui invitational MVP. That’s one of the games we are going to discuss. It was the semi-final, uh, against the Houston cougars, who was a top 10 team at the time that game took place on the 23rd of November. And this past summer, he took gold for the, the, um, the USA basketball, uh, FIBA you 19 competition.

[00:03:58] So you’re looking at a player who [00:04:00] is just kind of had a really nice meteoric rise and you see the progression and the, the potential is really starting to come to life. Uh, Sage. What did you like about Johnny Davis? There were, there was a lot to like, I, you mentioned Eric Gordon or somebody compared him to Eric Gordon.

[00:04:18] I was like that couldn’t be further from the truth. Like I went into that, not wanting to like him and I came out. He’s one of my favorite prospects in this entire. Nice.

[00:04:27] Dillon Sage: I think that he’s a nice mix of old school and the modern NBA. Um, I think the number one thing that he is is that fall mover type of basketball player, that every team needs to have a guy that can shoot off pin downs and just make life easier for them.

[00:04:46] That lead Playmaker. I don’t, I don’t really see him being that lead Playmaker, but he, he, in his role as that off-ball mover you, you see the skills, like the thing that I want from [00:05:00] Johnny Davis is to shoot more because he was passing off some very make-able shootable shots. You can tell that he is very comfortable with pull-up jumpers.

[00:05:10] And like when the. Attacks I’m at the three point line he’ll he’ll dribble and take that mid range or score on many different ways. This bag as an off-ball mover is just really high. So the offensive potential in him is super duper high. I, I think that if, if a team is looking for a guy that compare with their lead Playmaker for 10 years, Johnny Davis is that guy.

[00:05:41] Dustin: Yeah. And he plays for a really talented Wisconsin Badger basketball team. They are currently 17 and four on the year ranked 11th in both the coaches and a peoples. His numbers have been, uh, astounding, definitely backing up his mid season. All Americans. Uh, accolade, you’re looking at [00:06:00] 21.4 points. He shooting almost 35% from three 43% from the field, 78% at the line.

[00:06:08] You’re right. He’s not the best Playmaker at 2.4 assists per game. However, for a guard, he rebounds the shit out of the basketball.

[00:06:18] Dillon Sage: Is he bouncy or just smart and strong? I don’t know if he’s like, you know, like a lot

[00:06:25] Dustin: of intelligence. I mean, you, you have to know where the ball’s coming off that room. I mean, he’s grabbing 8.3 boards as a guard in college, uh, monster to playing 34.8 minutes per game.

[00:06:39] His player efficiency rating is extremely high at 26.3 and. You know, watching that game against Houston, you, you mentioned. I think that’s the first thing that jumped out at me was how well he moved off ball, like in the, in that Houston game plays 37 minutes, 30 [00:07:00] points, 10 of 18 from the field, four of seven from downtown four rebounds and four steels in two blocks.

[00:07:06] Like I thought he was not only, I think you kind of get like a stereotype when you look at a shooter and that that’s all they’re going to do. There were two things that immediately jumped out at me. It was one where he was just finding the spots on the floor and his teammates were looking for him and he was just a knock-down shooter.

[00:07:26] So this off-ball movement is, is very cerebral. Like he knows where to go. He knows where his teammates like him, but he also has an incredible basketball IQ and he has good length for his position, um, on the opening position. He used is linked to the flucht in entry pass. And then he had another one, about three minutes later.

[00:07:48] He then blocked, uh, Tajai Moore’s, uh, post up and just sent it right back into his face. And he’s doing that all while being guarded by more who the announcer is touted as Houston’s [00:08:00] top on ball defender. He was really making life difficult for, um, more and the cougars, especially early on, I think Wisconsin jumped out to damn near a 20 point lead and it was really all on the back of, of Davis who was getting it.

[00:08:15] On both ends of the floor. And what would I really love about players? Like Davis is he’s not doing it with the ball in his hands. I

[00:08:23] Dillon Sage: mean, we talked about the, the attempts, but I just felt like when Johnny Davis had the ball, he kind of was looking to play make a little too much. Like if you have that shooting ability.

[00:08:37] And I think that three point percentage is low. If he has that ability to be. Triple threat in terms of shooting, he needs to shoot the ball more. I don’t really know about his catching shoe game. Really. He’s mostly. Using the dribble to make a shot. I need to know what he is off, off the catch. We see the abilities.

[00:08:59] It’s [00:09:00] just, it isn’t enough. He needs to shoot it, shoot it, just like some other, uh, you know, players that we talk about. They need to actually shoot it. So we have a bigger sample size than just seven shots in a game. We need to really see it. I was really impressed by. Is health defense just as much as, as on-ball defense, because you saw him in perfect position using both hands to defend the, uh, the opposing team off the help.

[00:09:28] Like you don’t really see somebody have the intelligence to be an on-ball an off-ball defender. Like if he became a blazer, he would be our best defendant. Coming into the, the season in his rookie year, just because of how he helps with the nail, how he helps on drives, how he plays on ball defense on the toughest player, on the opposing team, he has a lot of utility that can help a team.

[00:09:54] Early in his career and especially late in his career, once he develops those like [00:10:00] counters to people, trying to stop him off the bounce or trying to stop him, you know, getting to his spots, I really liked the way that he plays the game. He also has the athleticism to be an above the rim athlete, not like the best in the world, but he can get the job done when he has the space.

[00:10:19] I don’t think that he will actually be that guy that. I can get to the room on his own. He’s going to need that ball screen. But once you give him the ball screen, he can create some really awesome stuff. So I don’t see him as like a pure isolation player. Like I see the comp for Brandon, Roy I, Brandon Roy didn’t need that screen.

[00:10:37] John and Dave is needed that screen to get to the cup. And when he gets to the cup, he finishes hard.

[00:10:43] Dustin: Yeah. I don’t see hardly any branded Roy in Johnny Davis has game aside from maybe the size. Uh, Brandon Roy had the ball in his hands and he was creating off of the dribble Johnny Davis. He’s gonna move without the ball.

[00:10:54] He can get to his box. And I saw him, you know, one dribble pull up. I saw him, you [00:11:00] know, do the dirt one legged, fade away. He was scoring off of a. Off the, off the bounce, which was great, but it wasn’t, I don’t think he has it go to MBA move at this point in his career. Um, it’s not a super quick first step and I don’t think he’s able to consistently shake his, his defender, but that’s that’s okay.

[00:11:20] I think when you’re talking about roster construction, you almost need players who, who don’t, who don’t need the.

[00:11:28] Dillon Sage: Right. Especially for the blazers.

[00:11:30] Dustin: I mean, who are some of the most coveted shooting guards in the league right now? Clay Thompson and Desmond Bain. What do they do? They play defense and they move.

[00:11:40] They also play with point guards who need the ball in their hands. Like I think when I look at prospects now, it’s more like that can almost be seen as a bonus because players who were able to score so effectively and efficiently without dribbling, the basketball is a, is a huge rarity. And you’re able to.[00:12:00]

[00:12:00] Put people who need the ball in their hands around them, because you score with the ball in your hands is as crazy as it seems. It’s not super rare or we have three of them. Yeah. It’s not what it used to be. A lot of players are growing up in there. They’re being taught how to play this way. So the players like, like, uh, Johnny Davis, Who I even thought was trying to show off a bit of a postnup game.

[00:12:24] They accused trying to post up his defender, but they never got the entry pass into him. If he’s able to get a nice post up game where you could just dump it into him. Um, I lost Steve Smith on the blazers, uh, Jr writer, um, even the Wesley Mounties when we really targeted James harden in that, that Houston series that has a huge asset when you’ve got a six, five big guard with, with some less.

[00:12:46] You’re going to create problems when everyone else is trying to roll out, you know, six to six, one combo guards, uh, in the back court, like you can punish them and he’s got the, I think he’s got the overall IQ and just cerebral nature of his game to [00:13:00] hold his own defensively. But punish these smaller guards at the NBA is going towards, like, I think in today’s NBA, people will want to move him to the three.

[00:13:08] No, keep him at the, to let him use his size. And I think he’s going to, uh, Um, pay dividends for whichever team is fortunate enough to, to pick

[00:13:18] Dillon Sage: him up. I think that he can play the three in spurts, but he is a natural to, I like it. If you’re playing shit, who has it? Who has, who has a guy? That’s six, six, that’s like a two or three, like I’m Mikelle

[00:13:33] Dustin: breaches.

[00:13:34] Maybe. I wouldn’t

[00:13:35] Dillon Sage: feel awful about putting, uh, Johnny Davis on bridges in spurts. I mean like bridges, isn’t going to kill you regarding. If Johnny Davis is on the squad, he’s guarding one of the two guards. But like you don’t, I don’t feel bad about putting Johnny Davis on a, like a 6, 5, 6, 6 wing. So in spurts, I can see it, especially since.[00:14:00]

[00:14:00] He has an underrated strength to his game. You absolutely could see that he is just a strong well-built athlete. He’s not going to get pushed around easily against, against NBA wings that you know, they’re not, it’s not like a power game anymore. It’s more finesse. So I could see him, especially with.

[00:14:23] Dustin: I mean, I think you’re already starting to see the change of power or the change of balance in the league with what Cleveland is doing and finding those, those freak athletes, like, like an Evan mobiley, who’s able to. Play the four, cause you can have Jared Allen, the five and now they were playing marketing at the three.

[00:14:40] Like it was small ball. And I think you’re starting to see the success that Cleveland’s having. It’s in the early stages of moving towards a size, but you also have to have the speed length, agility and quickness,

[00:14:52] Dillon Sage: and then Nevins. Unicorn with this skill. Like you’ve got to own that skill if you’re going to be super big.

[00:14:59] Dustin: And [00:15:00] I think Davis because of his unique skillset is in a way a unicorn as well, because there are so few players at what he does that you can have some size at the two. And maybe it’s because we’re, you know, nine, 10 years into having a smaller back court and a couple of years into playing a three guard lineup where you’re consistently undersized every night.

[00:15:20] And. It has been 30 years since this team’s made the finals and they did it on the, on the, on the backs of a really well-balanced big lineup. You know, when you, when you’re looking at your, your wings as six, seven Drexler and a six, nine Kersey, I wanna replicate that. I know Davis may not be as tall as Drexler, but he’s, he’s damn close.

[00:15:39] He’s one of the, he would be one of the bigger two guards and no Dame has really good size as a one, like it’s time to kind of shift what we were doing and really try to become trailblazer. In the sense of let’s change the narrative. We don’t need to play this small ball that we’re, we’re not suited to do.

[00:15:57] And I think the, the, the [00:16:00] reason the warriors were allowed to kind of operate under the small ball mantra. Draymond green. We don’t have dream on, but they were also large. Like clay Thompson has a large leading guard. Pick a dollar is a large, small forward. Like they have size just, you have that unicorn in Draymond that allowed them to do that.

[00:16:18] So I think it’s important to try to not call it. What, what teams have found that success, but also look at w elements at what they’re doing and seeing how you can implement together and create your own identity in your own calling card. And I think Johnny Davis just really checks off all of the boxes full for me when I watched him.

[00:16:40] Yes, he doesn’t have a go-to MBA move, but when Houston was making that run in the second half, that’s where I saw that flash of brilliance kind of takeover. Um, he really took over that game late when Houston was pushing, uh, he got to the free throw line and then he did a steal and score on the next events of possession.

[00:16:59] Hit a couple of [00:17:00] open jumpers. And just kind of derailed anything that, that Houston really had going on and when you’re able to have two way players, and I think that’s kind of been the theme that I’m looking for when you’re picking in the lottery. Like Portland is at a point right now where we’re not one or two players away where we can look at a specialist, you need to start building a roster full of two-way players, that they give you the same effort on the offense as they do on the defensive end.

[00:17:28] And I really noticed that with Davis. Um, I think he’s going to be a, I think he’d be a Robert Covington type of defender where he’s really good, uh, in the passing lanes. Like he, he just feels like. It was a good anticipation for the game. Clearly you have to have a good anticipation. If you’re averaging over eight, rebounds a game as a guard.

[00:17:48] And what did you always say, Sage? You could tell our guards were engaged and into it when they were rebounding the basketball. That’s what they did in that Denver series. I distinctly recall you calling out CJ McCollum for [00:18:00] how well he was getting in there and rebounding the basketball when guards can rebound and then handle the ball on the break.

[00:18:07] I mean, it just sets up for so many easy baskets. I was watching the Grizzlies and Nicks last night and they were talking about, you know, the Knicks, having to play grinded out basketball for 48 minutes. And you, you just can’t grind out every single possession. It’s exhausting. You have to find a way to get easy buckets players like Johnny.

[00:18:26] Whether it’s catching shoot threes off of movement steals, deflection, they open the floor up for easy buckets. Like I think he is so valuable to me, Sage. He fits in with every single system in the world.

[00:18:41] Dillon Sage: Yeah. Depending on how successful his career is, is his shot making ability. Cause I mean, he’s never going to generate easy buckets for anybody.

[00:18:51] But he makes pretty damn tough buckets and shock, creating a shock, creating the ability for him to create his own shot [00:19:00] and make it is going to be the difference between him hitting the low outcome and hitting the high outcome in his, you know, in his, in his career. So he’s a very interesting prospect.

[00:19:13] He fits with everybody. So the, obviously the fit is he would be probably the second best fit for the blazer. Thus far Jabari being one, him being too.

[00:19:24] Dustin: Yeah, I think he’s the best fit in, in the back court. And I cheated a little bit, like after I watched that game, I got excited and I knew he had a big game, a big matchup with, with Purdue, Purdue and Jayden Ivy.

[00:19:36] So I caught those highlights. Um, I V and Davis going back and forth, Davis finished with 37. In a road victory, and he showed me more in his bag that game a little bit more off of the bounce, you know, stop starts, um, one, two dribbles using his size to just rise up and pull up over defenders, which I think is totally [00:20:00] realistic to assume that he is going to be able to do that at the next level.

[00:20:02] Anytime you have size and you can just one dribble, one move, pull up, like it’s not going to be CJ where he’s undersized. So he has to go to 1, 2, 3. To get enough space Davis size allows them to just create just a little bit of a little bit of a space and go up to get, get that shot up. So you’re already seeing Davis, um, continue to progress in, in his skill set.

[00:20:29] It’s not just what we saw in November. He’s leading the way for this Wisconsin team and such have to be honest, this was Constantine did not look super talented. It was really.

[00:20:39] Dillon Sage: If they win the, the, uh, March badness it’s because Johnny they’ve scored enough for them to win games. I don’t see it. And another shock crater on that team.

[00:20:49] It’s all Johnny Davis. If, if he, if you get that huge rise is because he’s just dominating in March madness. What every gets out, every scout [00:21:00] is watching him play.

[00:21:02] Dustin: And I think. What he could work on right away is just a little bit quicker on the release. Um, I noticed that there was in the, in the late, in the first half, that there was two times where he hesitated twice on the same possession on an open three.

[00:21:20] He ended up putting on the whole that shit enforcing a mid-range. Absolutely just catch and shoot lock and load. Uh, let it go. But when you were talking about players with like low processing speed, I thought the exact opposite with John Davis, I was like, this is a player who has high processing speed. I think he sees the game one to two steps ahead.

[00:21:38] I think that’s what all of the greats do. Whether it’s, you know, a dream on green brain, Roy, a Dame Lillard, whatever it is, like, he just knows where to go. You can see that in his rebounding, you can see that in his deflections on defense, you can see that in his movements off of the ball and where he’s finding those open spaces.

[00:21:56] Um, I mean, I, I think he’s, he’s [00:22:00] just going to be a, I don’t know how high the ceiling is. The floor is so high though. Like, I feel he is already an MBA level player. Like you could put him right now and he’s going to perform better than most players off of the bench and he’s only going to get better.

[00:22:16] Dillon Sage: Yeah.

[00:22:17] All right. So what is your 25% comp.

[00:22:21] Dustin: I do 50. I thought we were just doing 50 75 and 99. So that’s all I’ve been doing

[00:22:26] Dillon Sage: much a lower comp I don’t pair the

[00:22:28] Dustin: lower comp um, you know, watching him. It just reminds me of a better shooter. Evan Turner. So Evan Turner was the national, this is Evan Turner at Ohio state, by the way.

[00:22:41] So whenever was the national player of the year at Ohio state, the number two player. And he was a guard who played for defense. He rebounded the basketball. Um, wasn’t really able to shake by his defender and that’s kinda what caught him at the next levels. Cause he didn’t have that jump shot [00:23:00] and he didn’t have that speed to, to get by the defender.

[00:23:02] But I think just a. Nobody knocked down for you to put just a better shooting, Evan Turner, where he’s going to be in the league 10 years. He may be your fifth starter. He may come in off the bench, but he’s going to kind of be at least a glue guy, very smart player. Um, so that’s kind of where I thought at for him, his low end comp.

[00:23:20] I think

[00:23:21] Dillon Sage: it’s a Norman Powell when he’s properly motivated because this year Dorman is not the player that he should be, but like w understaffed, understaffed, or under a. Nick nurse, you saw the, the ability to be that three-way shooter, whereas catch off the bounce and then movements. I mean, John is probably going to get more rebounds and that our stocks, us stocks guy, but I mean like the, the player type is pretty obvious.

[00:23:54] It’s those bigger guards that do multiple things

[00:23:57] Dustin: on the court? Yes. Um, [00:24:00] my, my mid. Comparison is Steve Smith. Um, you, you look at a player in Atlanta, in Miami, uh, early Steve Smith, where down shooter, not the quickest, but he knew how to use his body. He was a big guard. And when he was posting up, I was like, that’s what Smitty used to do.

[00:24:19] Smitty. Punished Jeff Warner sec, in those playoffs, you punished Kobe Bryant in those playoffs. Like he, he knew how to use his body. He was very cerebral. He lasted in the league a long time. He peaked out at, you know, one to two time, all star. Um, but he was always a consistent player. You could count on him.

[00:24:38] That’s really where I see his, his mid-level comp, uh, at his, a Steve Smith. And I think if he just hits that that’s worthy of a top six pick.

[00:24:49] Dillon Sage: We could see a Desmond vein. That’s probably a less developed Playmaker, but you see the, like every other stat, other than playmaking, [00:25:00] Johnny Davis is very similar to Dez with the TCU team he had to run.

[00:25:05] He was the secondary. And the Grizzlies put like an onus to develop the play-making. If a smart team does that with, with Johnny that you could definitely see Johnny Davis in that Desmond Bain role with John Moran, Desmon Bain is really, really a good fit. You can see the same thing with a dominant point guard.

[00:25:26] Johnny Davis is that guy that does the things that help him, you know, reach that optimal level. Like if I know. The Hornets have a guy in book night, but like Johnny Davis could be that off ball mover for, for a, uh, a metal ball. Yeah. I think Desmond is a really nice car.

[00:25:48] Dustin: By 99th percentile. If Davis hits the ceiling, it’s called Thompson.

[00:25:56] It’s in, that’s the player that I’ve coveted the most, you play alongside [00:26:00] of, uh, Portland’s point card. And he’s going to have to get a quicker release. He’s going to have to become an more accurate shooter because Clay’s arguably. Two or three shooter of all time. And clay plays really good. Cerebral defense play.

[00:26:16] Doesn’t really honestly have an NBA go-to move, but he just knows where to go on the floor and he doesn’t miss if he even has an ounce of, of space. So if you’re able to find. A potential clay Thompson. You take that chance any single time, and that’s why the losses are good. Keep losing, give yourself a chance to draft one of these players that we’ve been talking about because Portland desperately needs an influx in overall talent.

[00:26:47] I mean the, the, this, I, I legitimately think he has a shot, like of all of the players. We’ve talked about, you know, 99 percentile. Like, I feel really good about Jabari. [00:27:00] And Johnny Davis potentially getting to their 99th percentile, just feeling, uh, knowing how the game comes to them. Um, the skill sets they already have.

[00:27:11] Um, just a fantastic prospect, like easily. One of my favorites in the draft, just because of how unique he is in, in today’s NBA landscape, like 20 years ago, these players were, I wouldn’t say all the rage, but they were definitely more common, you know, th than they are now in any time you can throw a change up when every other NBA teams just work in the fast ball.

[00:27:35] You’re going to catch them off guard and they’re not going to have an answer and that’s going to provide the franchise with so many, um, opportunities and advantages. I

[00:27:45] Dillon Sage: think that his shot Gracian now is better than clay could ever

[00:27:49] Dustin: do. He’s better than clay. Well, I mean, I watched clay at Washington state and to be, to be honest, I didn’t see clay becoming this great in the NBA, but he’s,

[00:27:59] Dillon Sage: he’s, you [00:28:00] know, you get drafted as really important.

[00:28:03] Dustin: Where he is at right now is two to three tiers of over Klay Thompson was a Washington state. So if he gets to the right system, the right fit, I mean, you’re looking at what Desmond Bain is doing right now in Memphis, pulling alongside John Moran, getting a lot of playing time early, allowed, allowed to play through those mistakes, similar to what clay was able to do.

[00:28:23] You know that they moved off a Montay Ellis. Uh, they knew that they needed to let clay Thompson play next to Steph Curry and not try to force a square peg into a round hole. And he was able to play and work through some mistakes. So I think Portland, whoever they draft going to have to let them find the fit and make room for them and let them play through mistakes because, you know, comparisons have shown.

[00:28:50] That throughout history, if you do these players, that’s how the hit, you know, they don’t just magically become good. Like you have to. There’s a, there’s a formula and they ha [00:29:00] they did it with Dame. They let Dame work through his mistakes. There was no other point guard on the roster that had any chance of surpassing him or getting, you know, Dean was going to get benched in place of, there was no controversy, none of that.

[00:29:13] You have to let these players play with a clear mind in any freedom that allows them to. You know, reach their ceilings.

[00:29:20] Dillon Sage: If we’re fortunate enough to get Johnny Davis, Norman’s gone, CJ has gone. We, we have to give those those minutes to our younger

[00:29:29] Dustin: Norman’s gone, CJ’s gone. And either Damer ant has gone.

[00:29:32] Yeah. Cause then that, that’s just the, you have to, once you have the poreless four guards, they need, they need to get rid of three of them because they all frigging do the same thing. So you keep one, you find the two that fit. And then you use the others to really enhance the rest of the roster. Um, that that’s, that’s my take on it.

[00:29:53] And I think, yeah, Davis is, I think the best two of, of the bunch of the Portland would have

[00:29:59] Dillon Sage: currently. [00:30:00] So is where is Johnny bay was placed on your, uh, your top five talents thus far?

[00:30:08] Dustin: I just personally, I think Jabari Smith is still number one. I would say I haven’t decided between Davis or Ivy, so they’re probably tied it to.

[00:30:18] I would then put shit at four and, uh, Ben Cero, uh, still a five for me, just because of, um, I think he’s going to be really talented, but again, we discussed him. I think he’s like Carmelo and I don’t know if you can build around a Carmelo Anthony, even in his prime type of player. So, um, I don’t think.

[00:30:39] Necessarily what Portland needs. Now, if Portland gets him, obviously I’m going to be through all these still a high-end talent, but the other players, I feel like give Portland more, two way potential.

[00:30:52] Dillon Sage: I think I would go Jabari, uh, Chet, just for the high end high, high end outcome that may [00:31:00] or may not happen.

[00:31:00] Probably it won’t happen. Banchereau uh, I think Davis IB. Uh, my, my six guys, Adrian Griffin. So those would be my big, the top six. Those were who I would want the blazers to who drafted. I don’t want Keegan Murray. I don’t want any of those other players. Those would be my top six. Alright. Um, we will be back next week with the Arizona guys.

[00:31:28] And then I want to, I want to talk about my guy ain’t career for now, for that. So thank you so much for listening. We will be back Sunday for a normal wholly back board and we are out of here. .